CatGirl Pink ([info]catgirlpink) wrote,
@ 2007-11-27 11:06:00
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Current mood: busy

Some more PaCO stuff
Yet more about the Pagan Campus Organization. (For the stuff about what's already over, it's just hard to get over some of this stuff, you know? I just gotta get it out somewhere.)

Anyway, I've got to get to campus today. There's a whole list of things that PaCO needs done. I'll see what I can do by myself, and then see who's available and when to do the rest.

We're trying to recover from the damage Michelle has done, but it's rough. She did manage to screw up a few things for us in her secret plot to get Zeus thrown out.**

Where before, the departments we needed things from on campus were perfectly friendly and happy to help me get things for PaCO, they are now standoffish and rude, because Michelle got Gustavo Burkett to bully them over her "no non-students" thing, so even though our group tossed her traitorous, discriminatory ass out, these departments are no longer willing to help me, because they don't want to be yelled at again for helping a non-student.

Now, this isn't the biggest problem ever, but it's a decent-sized pain in the ass. Sure, we can have the Officers and other student members do most things-- which they should anyway, but if they can't and need another willing member to do it, the member should be allowed to-- but, some things are just easier if they'll talk to me once in a while, since, at this point, I do all our design work. I made the buttons design pages we need laser-printed. I make flyers. David tried to email the buttons files to the lady who could get them printed for us, but his email wouldn't send them, so I did it. Easy. But then, they were mean about it.

I mean, it's ONE thing to be standoffish or ignore a non-student because you don't want to get bullied again, but it's a TOTALLY SEPARATE thing to be rude to a student officer just because they are asking that files from a non-student get accepted for the group. You know what? A student officer actually HAS the right to pass on the wishes of the group, and if they say it's ok to take design work from a non-student because, yes, the group needs it, then, you know what? It SHOULD be OK. Come on, what planet are you University people on??

So, Gustavo pushing this "no non-students" thing on other departments, which our group doesn't need to listen to-- HE said the group could vote on whether or not it accepts non-students as equals, and it DID, so that's that-- is hindering our progress, and that pretty much sucks. Gah. A guy whose job it is to HELP Student Orgs shouldn't go out of his way to HINDER them that much. Sick.

So anyway, trying to help the new officers as much as I can. Hoping that PaCO will be fully recovered as soon as possible. Whew.


**Yeah, that's what it was all about. Did I mention that yet? The three weeks of hell she dragged PaCO through was all about the fact that SHE didn't like Zeus, and was willing to sacrifice everything to get rid of him. She went whining to Gustavo at Student Orgs to say, "I want to be fair and democratic, BUT, we have to get rid of Zeus, how do we do it?". So that's why everything got fucked up. All the while, she put on a fake face, and said that "it's the University's rule, not mine", while it was JUST HER PLAN to get rid of him, not the University's rule at all. She just wanted to use whatever bits of University stuff she could grab hold of to push her own agenda. She was two-faced and back-stabbing, trying to pull shit to get her own way. And she attacked at least 4 of us to do it.

She had the nerve to say things like "I don't appreciate a forced election to get rid of me", when all the while SHE was the one trying to use whatever she could in order to force Zeus out. She brought the election down on HERSELF by pulling that shit. Duh. Of COURSE she lost the election. Pagan groups don't discriminate, and they don't put up with that power game shit. She attacked ME as well as Zeus by pulling that "no non-students" shit. She attacked DAVID and STACY as well as Zeus by pulling her "no 'old' guys" shit. Fuck that.

The unbelievable nerve she had really pisses me off, even now. The nerve she had to lie to my face, acting like stuff was about PaCO and University shit, when it was really all about HER and what SHE wanted. She attacked ME, she attacked DAVID and STACY, in her plot against Zeus.

She attacked my friends AND me, she abused her power on the FirstClass system by deleting any post she didn't like, she stepped all over EVERYONE'S rights, and she tried to break apart and change the group I love most to suit her own, discriminatory agenda.

Of COURSE she lost the election, no one would put up with Evil Bitch shit like that. And only after she lost, did she reveal that it was really all about Zeus, all along (not that we hadn't suspected). She let PaCO suffer because of what SHE wanted. PaCO shouldn't have been dragged through this. That's just another injustice she has done to this group.

If she had some problem with Zeus, she should have just spoken up about it, not pulled power-game shit behind everyone's backs. Hell, she could have brought his presence up to a vote in the group. I'm sure she would have lost, just as she lost the election; Zeus has been very valuable to the group, getting us bonfire pits and permissions, and has been friendly and seems to be liked by the others. I suppose that's why she didn't do it. But to pull shit like this, to step on everyone's rights and back-stab, just, arrrgghh. It's sickening. It just disgusts me to see someone capable of such two-faced-ness and unjust behavior.

You can't have things both ways, either, and we SAW her trying to pull that shit. She pushed the rule that no one could vote unless they'd attended two PaCO functions, except when she said that the friend of Alora's that she liked could vote, even though she'd only been to one meeting. You can't pull things to have it both ways, you know. That's stupid as hell. She expected to say that I could come back after she'd pulled this "no non-students" shit? She told me that my cut-off from the FirstClass folder was expected to be temporary? Fuck you. When leading a group, you get things on one set of rules, or the other, NOT however you want, whenever you want. If you set a rule, and it's accepted by the group, then that's how it's going to be. You can't make exceptions ONLY when YOU feel like it, and tell everyone else they CAN'T.

If she'd have gotten her way and convinced the group to reject, for the first time in 10 years, non-students, then Zeus and I would have to leave and not come back until she was no longer President, and the group could have a chance to vote it back, if they wished. She could have tried to invite me back, as it seemed like she wanted to do, but fuck that. It's not RIGHT. For me to go back after she made it her platform to exclude non-students? What the FUCK was she thinking? When you want a group to set a rule, that's the fucking rule. You don't get to make exceptions for JUST those you LIKE. Period. I suppose it's lucky Tarsha wasn't still around. How would they justify their "no non-students" platform with her still wanting to attend?

Anyway, I guess the overall feeling I'm stuck with these days is extreme hurt.
The level of this BETRAYAL.. Just, wow.
To be willing to stand up in front of me and tell me that I don't matter anymore, to be willing to tell me that the years of effort and personal money I've given to help this group are nothing, because SHE suddenly wants the group to adopt some obscure rule so that she can further her own, personal agenda of getting rid of Zeus. To be willing to ATTACK ME, DAVID, AND STACY, to be willing to hurt anyone that might stand up for what was right, just to get her own way.

To have the nerve to try and act like some kind of victim, to whine about what a bad friend I was, when SHE was the one who did all of this?? For her to attack me and then whine like she got what she didn't deserve for all these people she hurt?

It's shocking, sickening, disgusting, and painful.



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non students
[info]ichijoji_chan
2007-11-29 06:55 pm UTC (link)
Look, I went through all this with Sean in anime club. This was all before you. Sean wanted to eliminate anyone from the club who would vote against him. One guy, Scott Charlton, was going to School in the U Maine system, but at another campus...Tomaston or something like that. Anyway, no one had ever had a problem with Scott voting, in fact, since he had First Class and all the other trappings of a student, what with being a student and all, no one even thought there were rules blocking him from voting.
Anyway, it all got hidiously complicated, and I learned a lot:
In U Maine's OWN rules, non-students CANNOT vote in elections for officers or on things like the charter. This includes graduate students, even. They can vote, if the club wants to let them, on things like "What day shall we have the party?" and such.
Scott Charlton was in such a grey area, not even the people in charge of this stuff seemed to know where he qualified. Eventually, I contacted someone, I forget her name, who said he could vote in elections if our charter said he could vote. We were re-writing the charter at the time. (Sean had forced us...he wanted more rules. John, the president at the time, wanted to rewrite it as well, to try to add a way to get rid of disruptive members (read:Sean) ) anyway, people were confused and mostly just wanted the politics over with so voted that only students going to the Orono campus could vote in elections...there were more qualifactions added to our charter, to make sure nothing really crazy happened, but my point is, yes, the university does have a rule that non-students can't vote in elections or do certain official type things...they can go to meetings, showings, parties, and such, that's about it. There's also some technical funding stuff having to do with how many undergraduate students you need to get money for things...it's complicated.

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Re: non students
[info]catgirlpink
2007-11-29 08:02 pm UTC (link)
Actually, it wasn't very complicated at all. It was rather quite simple.

The people from Student Government and Student Orgs came to our meeting, and told us directly that the University's policy was that, if the "recognized voters", meaning, the undergrads whose names were put on our last Club Update Form, voted to allow the non-student members to vote in the elections, then they could.

So they did. And then in two weeks we voted. And then we were done.

It only took us about 5 minutes to vote for new officers. I'd say we had a total of 10 minutes worth of voting and politics that needed to be taken care of. The shame is that Michelle made it take three weeks, when it should have been done so much sooner. She kept bringing in Student Government people, and insisting that we talked every detail to death. We were pretty much just re-hashing the same shit over and over and over.

I had told Alora and Emily, the week before the election, that since we'd already covered the election the meeting before, that I thought we'd talk about it for maybe 5 minutes and then have a regular, possibly even fun meeting that week. But surprise, Michelle had dragged in Gustavo Burkett, and made us talk about the same election stuff again for another hour and a half. We didn't need that. I apologized to Emily for thinking that the meeting would be something it should have been, since she had to sit through all that.

It was ridiculous. We knew what the issues were. Two, very simple votes. And no amount of their scare tactics to make everyone think the issues were really about some bizarre conspiracy theory that would somehow miraculously hurt PaCO in the future was going to change that. We knew the simple issues, and we voted, and the voting was over quickly. There was no reason to be forced to wait it out for three weeks while PaCO suffered because of it.

I don't know why she dragged it out so badly. Maybe she thought that if she did that, the people she didn't like would give up and go away. Luckily, we have some great new members who wouldn't be scared away. They stuck with the group to see it free of this bullshit so it can be what it's meant to be, and people can enjoy it again.

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Re: non students
[info]zeussimeoni
2007-12-05 07:33 pm UTC (link)
Fear. She dragged it out because of fear. She did a lot of things out of fear, and a lot of those things had some pretty bad side effects. But Michelle isn't exactly good on her feet, and when she got nervous she panicked and... well, kind of burried herself further, quite honestly.

Zeus - god of funerals

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